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Shield Questions

So I have been using Elf's shield. It is too heavy for me and I think a little too big, so I am going to order a shield blank. (Yay for birthday monies!) Anywho, I have a bunch of questions that I am not finding the answers to online, so I thought I would put them out here for my friends with their vast array of knowledge.

What is the difference between 6061 T6 Aluminum (.100 thickness) & 7075 T6 Aluminum (.090 thickness)?

Is there a formula for determining your shield size for a heater? What elements of someone's fighting style would make it more advantageous to vary from that formula and how?

What are the advantages/ disadvantages of using a flat heater vs. a curved heater?

If I order it cut for a handle, would I be able to use that to mount a standard shield basket, or would I need to drill anyway?

Using the trim lock, do I still need to have edging holes?

I think that's it for now.

Thanks in advance for any help.

I think I need a fighting icon...



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May. 21st, 2008 05:12 pm (UTC)
Foryour purposes ( no welding ) not much difference the .090 will be lighter. 7075 is a stronger alloy

Sigh more useless info in my head
May. 21st, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)
Not useless. It is to help your friends.
May. 21st, 2008 05:24 pm (UTC)

There's a table of properties for various aluminum alloys.

As for shields. If you're not liking the weight then go for as thin as you can find to shave down the weight.
May. 22nd, 2008 03:18 am (UTC)
Yeah. I was looking for something about strength and weight combined. I get the idea that the 7075 is stronger than the 6061, and that the thinner gauge levels them out for strength, while making it a lighter shield. But I can't find confirmation of that.

I don't want to get a shield that is so light it does nothing to protect me.
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May. 21st, 2008 06:42 pm (UTC)
Is the heater formula maybe what the spartans used? IN a standard fighting stance it covers from knee to neck?
May. 22nd, 2008 03:24 am (UTC)
Everyone seems to have a different formula. Shoulder to shoulder seems pretty consistent, but I've heard chin, neck and shoulder for the top measurement and knee, top of the knee, and bottom of the arse as bottom.

I actually feel a bit claustrophobic behind Elf's shield. I don't know if it's the size or the curve. I am leaning towards flat, but I was looking for some of the philosophy of curved shields.

I do need to post to the list. Maybe I'll do it before I go to bed...
May. 21st, 2008 07:36 pm (UTC)
the usual response for size of heater - ball point of shoulder to ball point of shoulder; top of shoulder to about the bottom of your ass. You mileage may vary!
May. 21st, 2008 09:41 pm (UTC)
Is this shield for individual combat or melee combat?

They're a bit different.
May. 22nd, 2008 03:25 am (UTC)
I don't know yet. Haven't done enough of either to know what I want to do more. I want something relatively versatile.
May. 21st, 2008 10:40 pm (UTC)
They've about covered it.
I used holes with trim lock, but standard holes are going to be for something much bigger. Drill your own there, too.

I haven't fought much, but much prefer a bit of curve in my heater. I find it hangs closer everywhere, a bit easier to be lazier longer. I find I like few leverage tricks better with a curve. Not much curve, or I find it hangs up on me, but I like a curve better. I think this one's personal.

Do you like to stand out side whacking away? or, do you like to get in there, lotsa masse and body English? ye know, casual contact?

I think a flat heater is often preferred by fighters who throw more timber. Curves for those who would like to clinch, though of course, that's illegal.

My limited experience fighting personally is to be considered here. But I have a good eye for this shit, and pretty serious body mechanics wisdom, too.

Observation of just some of our crew bears this trend out. the DEEB and Bledwein (SP?)both like to get in deep and scooch around and use curved boards. Leese, Hiliarious, and, I think, Adain, stand out and club away more, and seem handier with flatter protection.

I donno, I guess I just felt like typin' a bit. I could be crazy and should let individual fighters speak for themselves.
May. 22nd, 2008 03:31 am (UTC)
Re: They've about covered it.
I wouldn't have posted this here if I didn't want the brain dump.

I respect your opinions and I know that you analyze these things well. I don't have the experience to know what I like better. I know that as I tweak my gear little by little, I like what I am doing more and more and am feeling better about doing it. I think that getting a new shield and making a new sword are probably the two most necessary changes I need to make right now.

Elf's shield makes me feel a bit claustrophobic. I don't know if it's the size (22 x 38) or the curve, but I am leaning towards a flat shield. I have just been looking for a compelling argument not to before I place the order.
May. 22nd, 2008 09:45 am (UTC)
I would offer my technical expertise as well, but...

Rahne have sword. Rahne have shield. Rahne SMASH!

...that's about it for "technical" from this end.

Can't wait to fight next to you!
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